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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: how to start recording Reply with quote

Recorded a song. Well, what are weekends for, otherwise? Treat it like a gig, like you can't afford for it not to be good, and then go for it. I claim that's how to track. I don't mind talking about mics and placement though. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: how to continue recording Reply with quote

So anyway, I wrote a tune and recorded it last night, like I said. I did it the best I could, but tonight I did it again after listening to it. Treated it like a gig. If last night had been a gig, the people who heard would have been okay with it. But if tonight had been a gig, the people who heard would have enjoyed it more, I think. Anyway, I broke out the whiskey for this one. It always seems like a party when it gets done right. I guess I'm compensating for a slack social life, but where's the time to keep tracking otherwise? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbs up! I like the approach.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: how to finish recording Reply with quote

Anyway, I did it again tonight and it didn't seem like a gig. But it's the keeper. New approaches work?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a gig tonight so I'm getting ready to go track somethin' .... it's late .... by the time I take care of the dogs and the cat and the freal cats outside and then it's time for the dogs meds I don't get started 'till 12:30 am but I'm doing it anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the point I was gonna make before a movie suddenly got in the way was that I have the luxury of NOT approaching it like a gig if I want, even though that's cool at other times. It would seem, if I'm not mistaken, that you yourself find yourself in a similar position about now.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah ...... I didn't get my butt out of the chair. Too bad ....... another good idea gone!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's okay - as it turned out, my third take had a frog or two in it anyway. But I look at it like this: if you've got a rainforest, a frog or two isn't out of place. I extend the same courtesy to people I collaborate with, because if my own experience is anything to go by, it encourages improvisation.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man ..... I sent some good stuff to voxxy for a song of his. Now you know I'm always meh about my solos ...... I rarely get excited by my own playing. But this was great stuff and I was excited by having done such a good job. His reaction was the same .......... then I heard what he did to it.
He's taken different parts of different solos ..... so far so good ......... but he shifted them timewise! Evil or Very Mad Most of it was at least a full quarter note count ahead of where I'd played it against his tracks. So all the little embelishments and accents I put in my playing to go in specific places against the rhythm track were now moved to just random spots where I would NEVER have put them. And places where there should have been accents, there were none.

It just sucked out loud .......... sounded like some shitty high school player sucking badly as he played. I could go on and on and on and not convey the crappy suckiness of what he had done.
I told him it wasn't in synch but he said ...... that's what he wanted.
I guess I should have told him he couldn't use it then but .... well, once I send it it's your to do as you wish with. So I told him absolutely no way would he credit me in anyway on the CD as having played that embarrassing piece of shit.
I immediately caught a bunch of crap because "I was being an elitist" but man ..... if those guys thought that sounded good then they SUCK as musicians.

So now I have new rules in place ....... NO timeshifting.
I don't want me out there 'playing' stuff that's embarrasingly bad.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He mixed it with a frog or two in it.

Think of it as an improvisation.

But that's yet another advantage of live stuff - you get to see and hear yourself playing in time. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a chorus of the bastards.

Did you catch that "Ching Chong - the library song" on youtube?
Trust me ..... go watch it .... awesome song and awesome story although the poor dumb blonde had to drop out of UCLA over it .... but the song's killer!

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've left me behind. I'm all about tracking in this thread. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well go see it anyways ...... have I ever suggested anything that wasn't at least worth a look?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I checked it out. Yeah, the song's spot on. He gives me the impression of having his act together, studio-wise. I like the insets of him doing the overdubs. Very cool. But I've thought of another approach, similar to that Singapore video I linked to in the mixing forum - that one with the backscreen images while the band's playing live. And the Ching Chong video's added to that idea in terms of the insets. Thanks, Steve. Useful stuff. And I don't care if it's on topic or not. It's our thread, after all. So who's gonna complain? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dobro wrote:
I like the insets of him doing the overdubs. Very cool.
yeah ....... wifey and I particularly liked those. I gotta learn how to vid.
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