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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:09 pm    Post subject: Bass Traps - Acoustic Reply with quote

Hello Guys,
First of all, This is my first post in this forum, and I'm not sure If I'm posting it in the right place, so sorry if I'm doing something wrong here.
I just bought pair of studio monitors (Mackie MR5) and it has too much bass (I have to say that I didn't acoustic my room yet -about 12 Meter with A huge Window) so I'm trying to make some bass traps and add some parts ( woods or foam, I don't know ) to my room's walls to have a better monitoring, can you guys give me some tips please? PS I'm just trying to have a good monitoring for composing and recording some guitar parts, not to have a very professional Control room.
Thank you all
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how much information you want, but this site's comprehensive:

http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html

One of the things I learned from that site was that if your room's small enough, you might as well not bother with bass traps - a nice mix of stiff fiberglass and reflective surfaces is fine.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much dobro, the link is pretty useful and great. many thanx. lets see what I can do.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The link Dobro posted is great info but for a small home studio it can all seem a bit overwhelming.

Your number one first goal should be to treat the corners with bass Traps. NOT FOAM ONES. I Made 8-2'x4'x4" using Roxul Safe & Sound (8 pc bag from Home Depot ) and a wood frame, and some fabric covering. They cost me less than $100 for 8 panels to DIY. They can be used for Bass Traps by placing them angled in EACH of the corners and can also be used for diffusers mounted on the wall. Even in a very small room this should be your first step in acoustic treatment in a Home Studio. 8 Panels in the corners would most likely make an enormous difference and you will wonder how you did without them.

Do Not fall into the trap of putting Foam on the walls or even worse Egg cartons. They do Nothing in helping your sound.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's what i did- they've made a huge difference
[urlhttp://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=30783&highlight=mini+bass+traps[/url]

just another approach

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's what i did- they've made a huge difference
[urlhttp://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=30783&highlight=mini+bass+traps[/url]

just another approach

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@tunemaker: Thank you for your advise, what's the material of roxul safe'nsound? because I can't buy them here, I have to made it on my own. and I'm wondering if a triangle in the corner for 24 Cm is sufficient.
and another question, I have a Huge window in my room ( Almost 2m ) what should I do to them?
@stainless: what you did is great, but I'm worry about fiberglass, they could be very harmful in a room that I also use to sleep! BTW, how did you cover them?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A spray adhesive (3M 77) and a medium weight sport cloth- The rigid fiberglass is exactly as described, rigid.... but we much each be comfortable with our surroundings!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.recordingproject.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=30783&highlight=mini+bass+traps
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm saving up for some Mackie MR8's.

Was there anything specific that lead you to purchase the MR5's?

I'll be interested to hear what you think of them, when your room is sorted or whenever.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@gaz:
the reason that I purchased Mackie MR series was that I compared them to other brand with almost same price, I've hear Alesis M1 Active, MKII, M-Audio BX series. but they all got kinda coloration, but mackie's sound was much real and detailed. but the problem is Low frequencies, It's hard to control. I readthat in sound on sound, but I purchased them anyway, because we use mackie 626 in our studio which i great, frankly mackie seems more reliable to me more than other brands. here is what mackie company wrote on the first page of the manual:
AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT NOTE ON MR5 BASS RESPONSE AND YOUR CONTROL ROOM. your MR5s achieve their best bass response in a room that's optimized for bass reproduction.
here's a link that might help you:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul08/articles/mackiemrseries.htm

I got to admit that every review that I read in sound on sound about any device that i purchased so far was %100 reliable.
but I'll let you know what happens when i optimized my room Smile
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