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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

Hopefully it will get it's own Forum. Cool

This program is incredible! I will probably be staying with Sonar 5 but it will be hard for me to give Cakewalk $180 for any upgrades at this point. For general tracking work I prefer Reaper over anything I've tried. I absolutely dig the uncluterred simple GUI and the routing capabilities are off the scale!

I still need to do a little project and compare CPU usage to Sonar.

Reaper ROCKS!
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Reaper is awesome!I've pretty much forgotten about Ntrack.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

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Hopefully it will get it's own Forum. Cool

This program is incredible! I will probably be staying with Sonar 5 but it will be hard for me to give Cakewalk $180 for any upgrades at this point. For general tracking work I prefer Reaper over anything I've tried. I absolutely dig the uncluterred simple GUI and the routing capabilities are off the scale!

I still need to do a little project and compare CPU usage to Sonar.

Reaper ROCKS!


Yes sir, all true.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

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I still need to do a little project and compare CPU usage to Sonar.
Prepare to be blown away.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post the results,

if they're better for SONAR than REAPER, please post your system specs and settings and I will bust ass tirelessly to get it going the other direction

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will it work with a digital console (motorized faders)?

and then if only it would work on OS-X

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will it work with a digital console (motorized faders)?


Yes, as long as it can hang with the GM spec, or do an MCU emulation (most of the newer stuff can do MCU mode)

If its got a proprietary spec, let me know and I'll see what can be done

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and then if only it would work on OS-X


Theres a limited functionality OS-X version for you to test if you have time...chomping to come thru on the promised full-on mac capability by Q4

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Digi Control 24- if the beta version will function with the C|24I'll give it a go... I'm guessing I'll need to change my interface (it's OK as I'm looking to move away from the 002 with a Presonus Digimax

Running a G5 2.3 dual 2 GB memory, 500 GB HD (2 x 250 SATA)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugh, Digidesign locks their junk so itll only work with PT Sad

Thats why people called the C24 a "million dollar mouse" back in the day...actually a cool unit with mic pre's and such but wont work with nuendo or anything else using any of the industry standard specs, its all proprietary, the Icon system's D-Control is the same way

HOWEVER...Mackie never gave Justin the MCU spec either and yet we DO have MCU support Smile Perhaps something could be done, but that would TRULY be a coup

Actually this could be an awfully cool challenge!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK,

I've put together a little test. About a minute long little tune with a drum loop track, bass and a few guitars. I did the project in Reaper then imported the individual tracks into Sonar.

My PC is a P4 2.2 Ghz with 1 GB RAM...kind of minimal by todays standard.

I decided to use Cakewalk's Perfect Space Convolution reverb. This verb has given me troubles in Sonar as it can be a CPU hog.

Sonar: 1 effect....22% CPU (Sonar CPU meter)
2 effects. 38%

Reaper: 1 effect....30% CPU (Reaper CPU meter)
2 effects. 48%

With two effects running the Windows CPU meter in Sonar was 64-71% and Reaper came in at 47-53%.

I'm thinking about trying some different effects just to see what happens.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you have found, taskman is the thing to watch...there are all sorts of tricky ways programs' internal cpu meters might be tweaked to lie.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As you have found, taskman is the thing to watch...there are all sorts of tricky ways programs' internal cpu meters might be tweaked to lie.


Yeah, that was interesting finding the taskman so different.

On another note I just found the vertical grid lines! Awesome!! These can come in very handy. I don't have them in Sonar version 5 and I don't think they put them in version 6.

One thing I've got to check in Reaper is if you can start the grid lines at the beginning of a clip. I'll check that out later..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the original issues I was concerned with with grids was the ability to turn them on WITHOUT having to turn on snapping...that kicked my ass in Vegas and slowed me down horridly.

In reaper, not only can you turn them on independantly of each other, you can set them to different values Smile

I dont think you could start them randomly at a clipstart, unless you dropped a tempo change marker there...(it neednt actually change the tempo, just have a marker)

If you could explain the hows and whys of this behaviour, maybe it could be considered.

If it were for slicing up a section of a loop or something, I would make reaper one of your external editors, right click the item, push it to the start, do whatever slicing you wanted then hit "glue selected items" and save. You would have it back in the mix the way you wanted it

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Re: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

therage wrote:
Hopefully it will get it's own Forum. Cool

This program is incredible! I will probably be staying with Sonar 5 but it will be hard for me to give Cakewalk $180 for any upgrades at this point. For general tracking work I prefer Reaper over anything I've tried. I absolutely dig the uncluterred simple GUI and the routing capabilities are off the scale!

I still need to do a little project and compare CPU usage to Sonar.

Reaper ROCKS!


therage,

Many people on this forum will known that I've been a proud user of Cakewalk/Sonar software for nine years. I never thought I would change. Ever.

However, back in January, I was persuaded by a friend to try REAPER out. Even six months ago (it's come on in leaps and bounds since then) I found definite improvements in workflow that Sonar couldn't give me and with that far more opportunities for creative options than I had ever dared hope for.

I'm producing better stuff and in less time. REAPER really is a joy to work with, and it certainly shouldn't be lumped under"Budget Software."

If you want to be precise it's "Philanthropic Software." It might not cost an arm or a leg, but in my book it's significantly better than those that do.

It definitely deserves its own forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

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ons than I had ever dared hope for.

I'm producing better stuff and in less time. REAPER really is a joy to work with, and it certainly shouldn't be lumped under"Budget Software."


But it IS budget software. Budget doesn't mean bad.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Soon Reaper will graduate Reply with quote

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ons than I had ever dared hope for.

I'm producing better stuff and in less time. REAPER really is a joy to work with, and it certainly shouldn't be lumped under"Budget Software."


But it IS budget software. Budget doesn't mean bad.


Fair enough! That's why it shouldn't all just be lumped together - some is good, some is bad.

Likewise, Steinberg, Cakewalk, Pro Tools aren't just all lumped together under "Expensive software" Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats "value-added" dagnabbit Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reaper with Elastique Pro .... amazing!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually downgraded to pre version 2 Reaper yesterday. I don't like the way the new versons will put multiple takes visible at the same time. It's not the way I am sued to working. Is there a way to turn that feature off? I would rather right click on a track and do next take/previous take to get where I want.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like how version 2 shows the old file on the same line after you render a track. Really helps me out with guitar VSTs.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jake-O.W.A. wrote:
I actually downgraded to pre version 2 Reaper yesterday. I don't like the way the new versons will put multiple takes visible at the same time. It's not the way I am sued to working. Is there a way to turn that feature off? I would rather right click on a track and do next take/previous take to get where I want.


Hit Control L to toggle between lanes and single take view

Once you go to assemble a mess of takes you will LOVE that lanes view. split away and only the highlighted takes will play, hit contol L again to stick them back together

check out this video it shows lanes in action

http://reaper.fm/~christophe/ReaperDemoEnglish.avi

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,
You guys are making me crazy.
I have been a loyal user of Samplitude for many years and love it.But many of the functions of Reaper I want and don't have........

If I can truly use it in conjunction with Samp as an editor it looks like I will have to take the plunge.

Pipeline can I just go to your site and find out all about it or is there a separate site that is better?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok,
Pipeline can I just go to your site and find out all about it or is there a separate site that is better?


While pipe is getting his beauty sleep I might be able to help. Smile

You can download Reaper and check out its specs here:

http://www.cockos.com/reaper/

Be sure to also grab the PDF User Guide from the same page.

Also, the Reaper forum is here:
http://www.cockos.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19

The REAPER WIKI is here:
http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

More videos here:
http://www.cockos.com/wiki/index.php/ReaperVideos

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tmix, you know you can open a samplitude edl in reaper right? Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not until yesterday.

I am guessing the EDL is a complete saved song project?
I have only saved songs as .vip projects or exported them track at a time as .wavs.

I am really interested in using reaper for fixing drum tracks ( my main instrument) but also the time / pitch stretching.

Since I am really new to hearing and finally focusing on reaper as an addition I need to check out the videos and see what it can do.

I really love Samplitude version 6.04. I don't want to upgrade because I have heard it is possibly the most stable version, but it is not up to date on features. The 2 features I'd like is the drum edits , (cutting and time snap) and the pitch -time stretch similar to melodyne.

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