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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A composer's somebody who does complex, classically-tinged arrangements on a grander scale than the 3-minute pop floss of the music biz. A songwriter's somebody who puts words to music for the masses.

I'm a songwriter.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll second Trojka on Brian Wilson. I studied many of the Beach Boys songs last semester and he really knew what he was doing. He even continued to evolve after Pet Sounds but in a much less expensive way. That guy had all of the best musicians working for him and he maxed out what the Four Freshmen inspired him to do.

He took chances, created his own genre that has yet to be duplicated. Even tho his commercial success waned his musical success endured.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me.

I listen to me a LOT, and I never seem to tire of doing so, except when I'm tired of doing so -- and then I don't want to hear from me for a LONG time. Oddly, I don't listen to me recreationaly.

But I always seem to return to me ... so I guess, based on listening stats alone, I must be my favorite. Wink

Regarding others -- weighing consistency of output:

Donald Fagan and Walter Becker -- these guys, when they're on, with the right team ... have created some of my favorite music available on the planet.

John Lennon and Paul McCartney -- oddly, number TWO on my list ... but though they're an integral inspiration to me ... I can emulate what they do better than I can emulate what couple number one does -- so I must discount them accordingly.

Glenn Frey and Donald Henley -- AMAZING material -- commercially written ... but the ability to walk the fine line between meaningless country tripe and over the top, their depth of talent gives them the third place in my list. The album, "Desperado", (the song being the first collaboration of writing between the two) ranks as one of my top three releases EVER -- it's almost a religious experience to me. I close my eyes and envelope myself song after song.

David Bowie: There are few albums better than "Ziggy Stardust". He hits the top four by that alone.

Mick Jagger and Keith Richards: Best garage band ever -- though I only own "Sticky Fingers" and their greatest hits ...

Simon and Garfunkle: Why do people consistently forget them? They're seminal artists who ranks amongst all I do.

Neal Diamond: "Hot August Night" only highlights his amazing talent. People have made movies focusing on him. My favorite, though, is "Jonathon Livingston Seagull" ... which shows how sentimental I really am.

I'm Irish ... so fuck you all. Very Happy

Carole King: a truly gifted pure songstress.

Sting: No further creedal need be given -- though, as a side note ... I don't believe he's a talented songwriting craftsman ... he only does what he natively does ... but he happened to hit a stride at the right time with the right people -- and his output is incredibly good.

Billy Joel: Should have appeared higher on my list, but ... though I SOUND like him, and draw some inspiration from him, he's not highest on my constant listening list -- go figure ...

Oh shit -- I forgot Elton John ... There was a time I listened to no other. He's a master. Yes, he's a sell out ... totally ... but oh my, if there were a brain I could pick ...

And dinner's ready ... great topic ... I'll be back ...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Anderson of Yes
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Me.

I listen to me a LOT, and I never seem to tire of doing so, except when I'm tired of doing so -- and then I don't want to hear from me for a LONG time. Oddly, I don't listen to me recreationaly.

But I always seem to return to me ... so I guess, based on listening stats alone, I must be my favorite. Wink


Okay, you just earned a ton of points in my book. Yeah, I really like my stuff too. Not only that, but I can tell you, for instance, in exactly what ways my songwriting differs from, say, Dylan's - there are things I do that work but which Dylan doesn't do, and there are things Dylan's doing which I don't do. (I'm not saying I *can't* do it; I'm saying I choose for the moment not too lol.) Which reminds me: I'm surprised Dylan isn't on your list - for his generation, he's probably the greatest songwriter there's been. Lenny Cohen ditto.

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Mick Jagger and Keith Richards: Best garage band ever -- though I only own "Sticky Fingers" and their greatest hits ...


Yeah, Sticky Fingers is ace, but get (and do not pass Go until it's been got) Exile on Main Street. It has a charm which deepens with each playing. I don't even think much of the first four songs, but after that... whoa, Michael!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddy King, Jimi Hendrix, John Entwistle Lonnie Brooks, Snuff Smith, Graham Parsons
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimi Hendrix, Willie Dixon, Freddy King, The Who (collectively), Bix Beiderbeck, Peppi Marcello, Hank Williams, George Strait
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob seger
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's so many good songs written by great songwriters............

Ian Anderson
Robbie Robertson
Elton John/Bernie Taupin(sp)
Lennon/McCartney


........and that's just scratching the surface of my list of favourites.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: With the board, and off the board. Reply with quote

I have 1,000 or more favorite songwriters but to keep it in the perspective of this board:

Jim Croce
Cat Stevens
Dan Fogelberg - beautiful melodies, stunning guitar, genuine
Tom Waits - wretched, real, earthy
Gillian Welch - hot voice, smooth and sensual, (haven't listened to a lot of her, recently introduced)
John Lennon - cuz' uhhhh ...
Nick Drake - genuine
Slaid Cleaves - like a feature movie in every song, real, unassuming
Patrice Pike - sexy, hot, world view, passionate, beautiful melodies, (older stuff after sister 7)
Amelia Blake - real, historical, biographical, light and funny to very serious
James Taylor - badass
Dolly Parton - there's two things about her I really, really like. Pure voice, great business.
Gershwin - An immortal
Willy Nelson - mah man!
Seal - incredibly beautiful soundscapes tied together with beautiful sonics and voice. Songs a pallette for performance.
Prince - jammin', great perspectives
Sting - I want to be a teenager again! straightforward metaphors, great beat.
Motzart - cuz' he was insane
Schubert - The Erlkoenig, and because he was so versatile, from song to symphony.
Beck - real smart lyrics, unpretentious, genuine
Kings of Convieniece - gorgeous textures, soft and inviting
Jeff Tweedy - badass
Paul Simon - smart and cool, doesn't dig any ditches, careful and PC.
Loggins and Messina - beautiful guitars and textures, great songwriting
Ben Folds - real, unpretentious, gifted, songwriting mastery, accessable

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone still wanna talk about this 3 years later?

I've been digging Tapestry lately, among other things of course Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been liking elbow a lot, and Procul Harum,and Kate Bush. And Phillip Glass, but I'm not sure yet whether he wrote his own lyrics. What a weirdo. What wonderful music!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been liking elbow a lot, and Procul Harum,and Kate Bush. And Phillip Glass, but I'm not sure yet whether he wrote his own lyrics. What a weirdo. What wonderful music!


My dad used to play "A Salty Dog" around the house a lot when I was a kid. Some really stunning songs on that record. Not really too tight with their other stuff, except of course for Whiter Shade of Pale which I never liked (though the s/t has a great album cover).

I also haven't really explored PG much, though I've seen Koyaanisqatsi a couple times. It's probably a matter of time. I like other minimalist-composer-guys like Steve Reich, Terry Riley etc.

You might like Laurie Anderson, if you haven't checked out her stuff yet..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know any of glass's stuff except einstein, which I like a lot (a lot of it sounds the way light shimmers on water) but the liner notes say that Einstein was a one-off so I don't know I'd I'm gonna like his other stuff as much.
A lot of modern music in that tradition leaves me wondering they bothered.

The early Procul Harum stuff is pretty weird but one of their later albums called Broken Barricades might sit well with you.

I haven't heard ms Anderson - I'll check it out.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had BB (and Shine On Brightly) in my digital collection for a couple years but haven't really given either their due. Will listen.
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Shine On Brightly was easily their weirdest album, and they were always pretty weird to start with. but the title track never fails to lift me up, and on 'Skip Softly My Moonbeam' their sense of humor didn't abandon them, even though the album feels like a descent into madness, or for a bit of relief, into death. There's also a descent into hippy goofiness. But if you find inspired craziness attractive, you'll find something to listen to on that album. I hauled it out last year and gave it a listen, but I found it depressing. If the next listen has the same effect, I'll just listen to selected tracks from it from now on.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jackson Browne
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What's the good Jackson Browne stuff Ken?
I like a couple NGDB songs...
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Yeah, JB is one of the guys whose stuff I've seldom heard. It's funny how I like music and listen to it a lot and still miss so much. Same with movies.

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Rosemary Lane is my favourite. You?

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Of what I've heard, Rosemary Lane and Jack Orion definitely, though I don't know what order. I've been listening to both lately. Jack Orion just has that raga sound that he and Renbourn got when they played together... almost like a drone.
RL is more concise and it always reminds me of Nick Drake's Pink Moon a little.
I like Pentangle a lot too.
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That first Pentangle album is one of my favourite musics. The RE got their guitars to sound like knives sometimes. You can hear the whole band clicking. I love it when talented people are really going for it and nobody in the band has started to think there might be alternatives outside the band. Playing your ass off and not thinking about yesterday or tomorrow. You ever hear that Yardbirds album with Mayall, Clapton, and Beck? I heard it maybe for the first about three weeks ago. Really good, really satisfying. Just going for it and trying to make it work.
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No, point me to it- I didn't know Mayall ever played with them, though I know Clapton was on a couple Bluesbreakers records...

Only Yardbirds I really know are Roger and Little Games
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